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Posted - 2010.10.01 08:59:00 -
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Quote: Well, all caldari missile frigs got a CPU issue really. But imo most notisable on the hookbill. Having to consistently rely on named MSEs and named DCs (that are overpriced... :( ) is not fun, not to mention the 40 CPU needed if you want a BCU ;).
This. What exactly were CCP thinking giving a 5-mid missile frigate CPU that laughably awful? _________________________________
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.10.01 16:03:00 -
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Quote: Quote:hookbill is a very good ride already.
No, it really isn't. Even with a rocket boost (and hopefully a bit more dps), the Hookbill is impossible to fit (at least without expensive faction modules). It doesn't have even close to enough grid for a proper buffer tank or long-range fit, and it doesn't have even close to enough CPU to fill its mid slots properly.
This. The fitting on that thing is ridiculously awful. I've said it before and I'll say it again: a 5 mid missile frigate with 206 CPU at max skills is a ****ing joke. _________________________________
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:30:00 -
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Quote: Tweaking the bonuses on the vengeance might be a better idea as well, as they did on the Hawk.
The Vengeance can have a damage boost when the Hawk gets bonused to damage types beside kinetic. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.05 23:25:00 -
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Quote: Drones are a deadly weapon against frigates. DonĘt try to minimize this.
They're also the only weapon that can be shot down. Don't try to minimize that.
Quote: Yes, just as I said, Galliente do have the most drones, followed by Minmatar and Amaar, with Caldari frigates trailing the pack in last place.
Ishkur drone count: 5 Enyo drone count: 1 Taranis drone count: 2
Wolf drone count: 0 Jaguar drone count: 0 Claw drone count: 0
Retribution drone count: 0 Vengeance drone count: 0 Malediction drone count: 0
Hawk drone count: 0 Harpy drone count: 0 Crow drone count: 0
Conclusion: stop misrepresenting things. On the t2 scale, Gallente drone numbers > Caldari = Amarr = Minmatar. Stop talking about the lack of a drone AF as some kind of massive liability because it isn't.
Quote: Slowest frigates
Gap between Caldari and Gallente isn't huge on this and they will generally be as fast or faster (if it's armour rigged) than a Vengeance.
Quote: lowest drone capacity
Please stfu already about this, it's utterly irrelevant. By your logic Minmatar and Amarr should be gimped as well right now because their frigates lack drone bays.
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Posted - 2010.10.06 13:12:00 -
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Right but we're not talking EAFs here, we're talking rocket using ships and their equivilents on other races. This means intys and AFs. We could start talking about the Helios as well and it'd be equally irrelevant. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.06 19:47:00 -
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Quote: combat-covops
That's a contradiction in terms.
Quote: wheras you need to remember that fail Anathemas use rockets :P
FYP. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.10 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 10/10/2010 10:47:11 I love how people had no problems with the Jag being top of the line and the Ishkur being borderline overpowered but are now crying over the possibility of the Hawk being good.
Cos, you know, it's fine for one race to have the very best ship in a given class as long as it's not Caldari amirite? _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.11 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sepheir Sepheron No changes to vengeance? **** you CCP die in a fire. Useless.
You say it like the Vengeance needs changes. Less dps than the current Hawk but the bonus is omni-damage, and in case you've been living under a stone for however many years you should know the tank on that thing is obscene.
The Vengeance is fine how it is (+ rocket buff), cry the **** more. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.14 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 14/10/2010 14:21:49
Quote: AF problem. Ship class is half-dead.
Retribution and Hawk are the only ones that stand out as being really broken, the others are useful enough.
Quote: EAF problem. Ship class is almost dead, only Sentinel is viable.
Umm, what? The Kitsune is great and the Keres is underused but perfectly viable. Only one that seems really rare is the Hyena.
Quote: Faction & navy frigate problem. Dramiel > any faction or navy frig.
True, but has even less to do with rockets than the rest of your drivel.
Quote: Desroyer problem. Thrasher > any destroyer.
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Interdictor problem. Sabre > any interdictor.
See above.
Quote: Rifter with 400mm RT is more agile and fast than Kessy with MSE. I lol'ed.
The Kestrel massively outganks the Rifter, especially post-fix.
Quote: Crow is worse than Malediction and probably the worst inty in the game.
Assuming the rocket fix works out ok, both will be fine. The only problem with the Crow is the lack of a viable close-range weapon system.
Quote: Hawk can't have tackle and tank together.
Umm, what? Are you really this clueless? What kind of **** fits are you using that can only manage tank or tackle?
Quote: So even if you will boost rockets till omg-super-any-dmg-type-scorches state almost all rocket platforms (xcept Malediction) will still s*** *****.
Got any real reason why? All I see at the moment is a bunch of emo-whining, half of which is only barely related to rockets.
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Posted - 2010.10.14 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 14/10/2010 17:13:34
Quote: So, AF's are okay? Ships which do 1/10 and 2/10 better than others and nothing more are rly ok?
You're an idiot. I have nothing more to say on this.
Quote: Why they are underused if they are perfectly viable... maybe, in FW plexes, where the ship size is limited, they are useful, but only coz of the gate.
If you don't understand what's useful about that level of EWAR coupled with high-end frigate mobility, that's your problem.
Quote: You don't know how to fit a rifter.
No, you don't know how to fit a Kestrel. Really though, I'd love to see your Rifter fit that can deal 120dps+ all the way out to the edge of scram range and still mount this 400mm tank you're going on about.
Quote: Don't quite understand what do you mean. Where/how rocket crow will be better than Malediction?
Rocket Crow has a significant DPS advantage over the Malediction as well as better CPU and better range (yes, this is important even in scram range)
Quote: Show me Hawk fit with web, scram and decent tank. Also it will be cool if it can at least attempt to kill T1 cruiser.
[Hawk, Rockets] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Ballistic Control System II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Nosferatu II
Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Dropping the NOS and moving down to an afterburner lets it fit a DCU II instead of the MAPC, bumping the EHP up by another 2k.
Let me guess, all you could manage was some lolworthy little SSB fit?
Quote: Do you know what is, um how it is in English, package approach? There are frigate Kestrel, AF Hawk and Venegance, interdictor Flycatcher, Heretic, faction frig CN Hookbill, and some others, like Merlin/Worm/Eris... are they *barely* related to rockets?
You're in a rocket thread bawwwwwing about the Dramiel, destroyers and EAFs. This is not related or constructive. There are plenty of other threads around for those. Now please **** off, if you don't even know how to get a tank and tackle onto a Hawk it's a safe bet you have no business commenting on changes that have been awaited for years. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.14 19:21:00 -
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Quote: Kind of funny how so many people react so badly when missiles are getting some buffs, but when their overpowered gunnery frig is questioned, they rage (looking at Dramiel fanbois). Not saying you are doing that, but some are :)
As I've said before, I love how it's supposedly fine for the Ishkur to be borderline if not openly overpowered but not for a large buff here... _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.15 00:40:00 -
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Quote: 100% viable T2 frigs are intys, covops and SB's, *IMHO* Wink
Idiot. All I'm going to say on this.
Quote: Sure dmg is forte of kestrel. And its weakness is awful mobility
Right. So, gank frigate which lacks in mobility and tank. A big plus for some drawbacks. Problem?
Quote: Higher range/dmg don't do it better in general.
Umm, yeah, they do. They're significant advantages.
Quote: 0% EM res... even with EM rig I'm not sure this can kill a Merlin (same hull but T1, lol).
Merlin with equivilent fit loses out significantly in both EHP and DPS at scram range. Try again.
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Posted - 2010.10.17 17:32:00 -
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Quote: not much changed for worm...
Well now it has a weapon that doesn't suck it might be worth using over an Ishkur... maybe... _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.18 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Belen Shields Why don't you at CCP give all the A-Frigs an AB-Boost?!
They tried that. It made the good AF's (moare) OP and the bad AFs still bad. Idiot. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:25:00 -
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The Hookbill has less CPU than the Hawk... and has 5 mids. Getting a decent SML fit on is pretty much impossible and it really struggles without low-CPU metas all over the place. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.23 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Dunham While the rockets are much better then they were, I still don't believe they're effective enough to be used as anything more then telling drones what to aggro. Rockets are very comparable to blasters, while the standard missiles could be compared to rail-guns. The short range variant should do more damage then the mid-to-long range variant. Torps and cruises follow this pattern, as well as HAMS and heavies, but Rockets and standards go against the norm.
So while this is an improvement, I fail to see how it will change anything in reality. But honestly, caldari ships are generally fail for pvp anyway, and usually other races use other weapons, so I'm not really all that upset about it.
Jason Dunham
Wow. I'm impressed you managed to pack that much idiocy into one post. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:11:00 -
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Quote: EAF & AF are next up on our list for a future release, and that will probably also include renaming assault ships to frigates, been bugging us for a while that they were called ships for some reason.
Awesome Seriously thanks for letting us know you're working on this stuff. It's fixes like this that are exactly what the game needs right now. More viable ships is always good. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.10.31 18:16:00 -
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Quote: They did try with the aborted AB change
Yeah tbh it's better the changes are delayed than the disaster of the AB bonus going through. _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.11.05 17:51:00 -
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But Canibal, haven't you seen the other nerf threads around? It's perfectly acceptable for one race to have ships that are the best in their class by a huge margin - as long as it's not Caldari _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.11.05 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 05/11/2010 22:08:01 Let's look at it this way shall we:
Ishkur - hands down the best AF. Ridiculous pwnmobile of a ship. Where is the whining threadnought for this ship?
Zealot - best sniper HAC, superb armour hac, second only to Drake gangs in number. Where is the whining threadnought for this ship?
Curse - most powerful combat recon ship besides debatably the Rook and certainly a better solopwnmobile. Where is the whining threadnought?
Drake - The best battlecruiser for large fleets backed with an obscene number of logistics. Hang on, it's a Caldari ship. WHINE BRIGADE, ENGAGE.
Hawk - buffed to the point where it can take on Ishkurs and Jaguars and win - OMFG IT MUST BE OP. People are fine with Ishkurs being obscenely powerful for an AF, but god forbid Caldari should have one that matches or (gasp!) beats it. It should also be pointed out that vs larger ships, its raw dps isn't likely to be that impressive by frigate standards.
No doubt I've missed a few, but looking at the races of the above ships, I start seeing a pattern emerging here... _________________________________
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:39:00 -
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Fixed:
Let's look at it this way shall we: Rifter - the best t1 frigate, the standard by which all the others are judged against. Why has it been allowed to stay in this spot so long?
Ishkur - hands down the best AF. Ridiculous pwnmobile of a ship. Where is the whining threadnought for this ship?
Zealot - best sniper HAC, superb armour hac, second only to Drake gangs in number. Where is the whining threadnought for this ship?
Curse - most powerful combat recon ship besides debatably the Rook and certainly a better solopwnmobile. Where is the whining threadnought?
Drake - The best battlecruiser for large fleets backed with an obscene number of logistics. Hang on, it's a Caldari ship. WHINE BRIGADE, ENGAGE.
Hawk - buffed to the point where it can take on Ishkurs and Jaguars and win - OMFG IT MUST BE OP. People are fine with Ishkurs being obscenely powerful for an AF, but god forbid Caldari should have one that matches or (gasp!) beats it. It should also be pointed out that vs larger ships, its raw dps isn't likely to be that impressive by frigate standards.
No doubt I've missed a few, but looking at the races of the above ships, I start seeing a pattern emerging here... _________________________________
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